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Cooker

29-08-2007, 12:44 AM

lukits01

29-08-2007, 02:26 AM

AWESOME! Shame I missed seeing you out there. Any idea on current lap tmes? ADVAN A048 are good to practice on if your gonna start racing in IPC (Improved Production Car) as this is their control tyre. If you enter in Road Registered 2L and under class you can pick any tyre. The A048 is alright but if your not restricted to tyre go for the Potenza RE55S. These tyres are absolutly awesome! You can get on the power a bit earlier and they have rediculously stiff side walls so there is pretty much no flex compared to the A048's. Try both if you want and tell me I'm wrong.
Good to see your spending your $ in the right areas. Give me an awesome driveline and suspension package over power any day. You know the old saying " Power is nothing without control".
EBC yellow pads are good also. People say that they don't work till there hot and only use on the track but they are actuall quite a good street pad. Use on the front and factory ones on the rear.
Who's your mechanic in W.A?
Is the FN2 baffled from factory? B18C is. Be carefull about aftermarket baffled sumps as many racers around the world (with B series engines)reckon the best results they got were using the B18C factory sump. Some actually wrecked their engines from aftermarket sumps.
An easy trick to do next time you go to track is fill the oil about 3mm past the fullmark.

PS: Did you back of through the s's? lol
My mechanic is Tony Flood

I did 1:03 at barbagello short track, stock!
very messy lap, and it was my first outing
car can probably do 1-2 secs quicker
Im not quite ready for racing at the moment
Would just like to focus on time attack events, auto-X and maybe super sprints.

I've had RE55S before, and I know they are awesome!
but cant help but notice that Japanese Honda tuners seem to prefer A048, I got these for a decent price, so I thought I'd try them out.

I have heard horror stories of K20 motors failing due to oil surge at the track. Not sure if the new sump has been improved, but I thought its cheap insurance for a little peace of mind. I heard the best K20 sumps are made by a little company called Ariel (gee I wonder why? ahhaha)

and NO, I did NOT back off through the S's if anything Im too agressive with my throttle ahahhaha
I like you're signature though! So true! ahhahah

evil

29-08-2007, 10:19 AM

Sounds like the sorts of thinks i would be looking into when modifying my FN2.

On my past car I had racebrakes RB74s on the fronts and Comp2s opn the back and never had any issues with them once they were bedded in properly and that was taking the car to track days every few months.

Lukits man, i do have to compliment you on your taste in wheels... I had spec'd and priced the exact same wheels prior to delivery of the car, and was very annoyed when I saw someone else had them already...

If you dont mind my asking, how much was the LSD?

Thanks

Andy

wuism

29-08-2007, 03:28 PM

hey!! that my HEADER!!!

lol

STAY AWAY!

Cooker

29-08-2007, 05:53 PM

Awesome. Yer if you got them cheap you can't complain.
There should be a tuning day coming up where they open up the track in the morning and the hill climb track at the back in the arvo. That should be a good opportunity to practice on the hillclimb track. My car should be on the road in approx 1 month so look out. lol hahaha
You gonna do any intake mods? You could even just do a K&N drop in panel filter for the time being till you source something decent.
Keep us posted on your mods and yeah you can't go wrong with aerial.

eccentric

29-08-2007, 07:57 PM

Keep us posted on your mods and yeah you can't go wrong with aerial.
anything with a k20a ftw ;)

lukits: post pics with your new rims mate! i wanna see how the fn2 will look like with 17" rims because i'm considering some RGIIs. All my friends with continental cars keep going on about how my rims are bigger than theirs.. lol

Cooker

29-08-2007, 08:32 PM

You coming out on the September the 8 tuning day luke? I might be there with gav and his civic.

lukits01

29-08-2007, 08:47 PM

You coming out on the September the 8 tuning day luke? I might be there with gav and his civic.

Most likely! I still have one more free tuning day coupon
and I havent had the chance to test out the LSD
I suspect this will probably finish off the OEM RE050A tyres though
they have taken a beating ahhaha

Cooker

29-08-2007, 08:49 PM

Or u can put your slicks on your new rims and wear them in. lol
See you then.

B16B

30-08-2007, 12:13 AM

You coming out on the September the 8 tuning day luke? I might be there with gav and his civic.

i might be goin if i could get my brake sorted.

i was the yellow DC2R at barbagallo on one of the last tuning day late last year. saw gav there, so the other guy must be you, lol.:eyebrow:

B16B

30-08-2007, 12:15 AM

btw the s's at barbagallo is the 2nd and 3rd turn?
or the one going uphill?

Cooker

30-08-2007, 06:18 PM

Probably dunno, can't remember that far back. Did you have a carbon fibre bonnet?
Yer the 2nd an 3rd turn going leading up into the uphill 4th corner.
Looks like we are gonna have a nice honda group on the 8th. Any other W.A hondas thinking of coming up?

lukits01

30-08-2007, 09:33 PM

Cooker

31-08-2007, 12:31 AM

Crap!!!!!!! My car is gonna be ready towards at the end of september, so me & gav are coming out to drive on the october 6 tuning day (Not sep 8). That should give you time to fix your brakes mister B16B and luke to maybe do a few more things lol ?

lukits01

22-09-2007, 06:02 PM

Slight update with Tyre and Brake system mods

anything with a k20a ftw ;)
lukits: post pics with your new rims mate! i wanna see how the fn2 will look like with 17" rims because i'm considering some RGIIs. All my friends with continental cars keep going on about how my rims are bigger than theirs.. lol

pics at first post

eccentric

25-09-2007, 02:14 AM

Slight update with Tyre and Brake system mods

pics at first post

As expected, looks a little weird.. but you're only using them for track use yeah? Hardcore

GENONE

25-09-2007, 11:47 AM

WOW... didn't realise so much has happened since i've seen this car last time! sweet!

You in for the 27th??? im there...can't wait!

Cooker

25-09-2007, 10:23 PM

27th? Whats then?
Good to see you went the bridgestones mate.

GENONE

26-09-2007, 07:01 PM

27th is NoLimitsevent - an evening event at Barbagallo. 6pm-10pm.

:mrgreen:

Cooker

09-10-2007, 12:07 AM

Everything go ok?
What was the results? What times you run?

lukits01

09-10-2007, 10:35 AM

Was ok, noted down a few things. It was raining so couldnt do a flying lap. managed a 1:08 (although it wasnt me driving ahhah)

The LSD has made the VSA redundant for track use. I left VSA on for one session in the wet, and it only came on once, and that was because the rear was giving out!
There is so much front end grip from this LSD+tyre combo that most times, the rear tyres are the first to give out. Lift off oversteer is more apparent.

This car responds very well to smoothness, something I learnt the hard way. You need to be slow and smooth with throttle, braking and steering to harness all the available grip. The moment Im violent with any of these things, I would just throw the car into liftoff oversteer, or push understeer.

Either way, driving in the wet has exposed my limitations in terms of driver skill. I recommend to anyone to try wet weather driving on the track to learn about precision and smooth driving style.

edd

09-10-2007, 12:23 PM

yep, wet roads are best for testing control of a vehicle. i did it heaps in my old 5 door civic and it taught me a lot

i dont like VSA tbh. but it'll save my life once i need it

Tubby

09-10-2007, 01:06 PM

This car responds very well to smoothness, something I learnt the hard way. You need to be slow and smooth with throttle, braking and steering to harness all the available grip.

I certainly agree. Keep it smooth and it will reward you, if not you will be punished!

Cannot wait to get my LSD!

Chris_typer

09-10-2007, 01:18 PM

yep, wet roads are best for testing control of a vehicle. i did it heaps in my old 5 door civic and it taught me a lot

i dont like VSA tbh. but it'll save my life once i need it

yeah buddy for sure...you'll really only appreciate VSA in the wet, notice how much more control you have of the vehicle, wereas without it you would be sliding everywhere.

edd

09-10-2007, 06:48 PM

and thats why i dont like it. it stops me from sliding which is less fun ;)

a little hobby of mine a while ago was to go to clear roads on a wet day with my old 5 door civic and tackle corners much too quickly. it was fun when my car would slide at low speeds. tried the same with the FN2 with VSA on and it doesnt slide at all. just understeers

but yes, driving quick in the wet is something where i would want VSA. as i imagine without it i will be hitting into something or someone

lukits01

09-10-2007, 07:03 PM

perhaps I should clarify that VSA is redundant ON TRACK they are still priceless for saving your precious arse on the street. As our club motto says.. "TAK it to the track!" ahhaha

Chris_typer

09-10-2007, 07:40 PM

lol true...will take it in the next few months

lukits01

22-10-2007, 01:46 AM

Just came back from Hill Climb event with all mods in place...
http://www.youtube.com/v/AFCE6AzQho8
I can now say Im very happy with how the car handles...
and uhm... sounds...

edd

22-10-2007, 11:00 AM

Hey Sena how much did the KW variant 3 coilovers cost you??

i was thinking of importing some

GENONE

22-10-2007, 02:41 PM

Sena - well done mate - very smooth through there!

They are finally running the 'new' section of the hill climb... sweet!

Chris_typer

22-10-2007, 03:49 PM

Just came back from Hill Climb event with all mods in place...
http://www.youtube.com/v/AFCE6AzQho8
I can now say Im very happy with how the car handles...
and uhm... sounds...

Ay bro sounds off the hook..sounds rally spec lol have you got an exhaust system on it?

lukits01

22-10-2007, 04:01 PM

Ay bro sounds off the hook..sounds rally spec lol have you got an exhaust system on it?

yea, I call it:
SPL Technica Internazionale Circuit Attack Hi-POWA Speziale Pro Spec-RR

hehe, in other words... its a custom job

Chris_typer

22-10-2007, 04:48 PM

Haha funny cnt..you italian? How come the custom job cost?

edd

22-10-2007, 11:37 PM

Hehe, i think he is Asian like me

and dw about the coilovers some dude over msn told me about the prices lol

Cooker

03-11-2007, 11:20 PM

Saw you out there today. I was there with Gav setting up his nuts black EG civic. Set a new PB. 57.2sec on short circuit.
I love the look on peoples faces when they get passed by that EG civic and their cars are worth twice if not 3, 4 times as much, like that dude in the Porsche Carrera S. Haha

Your mate with the blue DC5 was doing alrite, 72secs on long circuit.

wuism

03-11-2007, 11:43 PM

congrats on the pb... dayam.. 57 is fast...
what has been done to the car?
i must say.. that eg.. is bloody loud.

i'm the dude with the blue dc5. :)

lukits01

03-11-2007, 11:45 PM

Cooker

04-11-2007, 03:51 PM

congrats on the pb... dayam.. 57 is fast...
what has been done to the car?
i must say.. that eg.. is bloody loud.

i'm the dude with the blue dc5. :)

Engine wise,
Its a B16A with a stock bottom end, cold air intake, TODA 4-1 headers, 2.5inch exhaust, TODA spec C cams, TODA springs, HKS cam gears, Microtech LT8 with handset. I think thats all.

Drivetrain,
Alloy flywheel, brass button clutch, KAAZ 1.5way LSD.

Suspension,
DC2 ITR front swaybar, adjustable rear swaybar, adjustable coilovers, urathane bushes throughout, adjustable camber arms front and rear.

Brakes,
DC2 ITR front brakes, stock rear.

Body,
Carbon fibre rear hatch, rollcage, 2x VELO bucket seats, stripped out interior.

Power is 160hp atw
Cars weight = 975kg
Hitting just over 200kmh down the back straight.

wuism

04-11-2007, 05:46 PM

and wat tyres were u running on sat?

Cooker

05-11-2007, 05:40 PM

The Kumho V700 and the Potenza RE55s

revitharder

14-11-2007, 01:35 AM

try running some kumho g-dogs will give you .3 to .4 seconds per lap!

Cooker

14-11-2007, 09:24 PM

Yer ill try the g-puppies before advancing to the g-dogs.

lukits01

14-11-2007, 10:34 PM

what are these g-dogs/g-puppies?
and how do I weild its magical powers?

also my time on barbagello short track with current mods is
1:00.4

wuism

14-11-2007, 10:39 PM

wow... good time.. 1:00.04 is fast.. u should be happy

congrats... on the great time.. :p

Cooker

14-11-2007, 10:44 PM

Yer thats pretty good. Congrats

REVITHARDER is just being a d***** as ul see if you read his other posts.
Theres no such thing as g-dogs.

wuism

14-11-2007, 10:45 PM

HAHAHAHAHa.. lol...

g dogs.. ahahahah

Cooker

03-12-2007, 01:19 AM

Awesome,
Today I was down at barbagallos for the final AMR Speed Event of the year to see if all the fine tuning, suspension tweaking and hardwork had paid off on the Gav's little black girl - AKA the civic.

And it had, Gav broke his own PB (Which is the lap record in his class) and wrapped up the year with another win to take home the trophy.
56.7sec on short circuit!!!!

Thats 1 whole second of his previous official PB (57.7 sec). Just shows that without adding any hp and just playing around with suspension setup
you gain alot more time and save money.

Now that we got all the suspension setup nearly spot on I think it's time he finished building his B20 and dropped it in. hehe:yes:
I'm pestering him :mad:

lukits01

03-12-2007, 02:36 AM

DAMN!!! THATS EXTREMELY QUICK!
whoah!
I'm curious to know what tires and what compound Gav is using...
Im finding it difficult to get heat into the rears of my RE55S

seiken

27-12-2007, 02:18 PM

A quick question in regards to the Quaife LSD?

Was that LSD meant for the DC5/CL7/EP3? If so, it technically means that we should be able to fit a JDM/AUDM DC5/EP3/CL7 LSD into our FN2?

Is there anything else required to fit an LSD? Cause if i were to go to a wrecker in aus and pick one up, it would be a straight bolt on?

Thanks

Seiken

BF52

27-12-2007, 11:17 PM

Yes... it should fit.
Something to think about... installing a LSD is a rather time consuming thus expensive job... consider installing a Clutch or even a Final Drive at the same time, as it will be more cost effective.

PS: Im waiting 2 install a DC5/EP3 Spoon LSD & Clutch.

jugbugz

28-12-2007, 12:37 AM

Engine wise,
Its a B16A with a stock bottom end, cold air intake, TODA 4-1 headers, 2.5inch exhaust, TODA spec C cams, TODA springs, HKS cam gears, Microtech LT8 with handset. I think thats all.

Drivetrain,
Alloy flywheel, brass button clutch, KAAZ 1.5way LSD.

Suspension,
DC2 ITR front swaybar, adjustable rear swaybar, adjustable coilovers, urathane bushes throughout, adjustable camber arms front and rear.

Brakes,
DC2 ITR front brakes, stock rear.

Body,
Carbon fibre rear hatch, rollcage, 2x VELO bucket seats, stripped out interior.

Power is 160hp atw
Cars weight = 975kg
Hitting just over 200kmh down the back straight.

ahhhhh, so this is cypher's civic you were talking about? Are you sure he didn't upgrade the retainers with Spec C cams? Shouldve broke by now if it's still stock right?... sounds very fast :D

btw, what CR is he running? 10.4cr? I thought it would have to have more CR to make proper use of the durations and lift of C.

I'll definitely have to go and check it out because 160whp is a lot!!!

Cooker

28-12-2007, 01:25 AM

Yer he's running aftermarket retainers. Dunno what brand.
CR is stock. The head has never been taken of and engine has never had a rebuild. Cams where done with the head on.
Not bad for a 17 year old engine.

jugbugz

28-12-2007, 02:40 PM

wow, you mean it the 1st generation type B16A? :wow:

Cooker

28-12-2007, 09:06 PM

Yer Gen 1. He's still using gen 1 intake manifold to.
Thats the beauty of knowing what you are doing and being a good tuner. There's heaps of people with worked B18c's that arn't getting near that whp.

cir85

14-01-2008, 04:26 AM

hello! i am new to hondatech, and currently owna 07 CTR.
i agree the brakes are spongy..
as u mention "The front brake pads are the same part as S2000 and AUSDM DC5"...so that mean the s2000 pad will fit on the fn2 aswell?

and do you have the part number of the endless rotor you have?

and where did you buy the KW coilover from?

sorry for the long questions..:)

lukits01

14-01-2008, 02:26 PM

I've used 2 different pad compound from Carbonetics/Project Mu
they were made for S2000 and they fit fine
I'm going to try Ferodo DS2500 for S2000 over the weekend
can't imagine them not fitting either

I don't remember the part number of the rotors, but they were made for EP3 Type-R.

I bought KW coilovers from Perth-Australia Official dealer
paid full price for it too, cause I just like to have the waranty incase something goes wrong.

Tubby

14-01-2008, 02:43 PM

I am running the Ferodo 2500's at present. The pad fits fine and works pretty well. Has a lot better bite than stock that is for sure!

cir85

14-01-2008, 06:43 PM

thanks for the answers!
cause i was thinking if the pad you use is made for s2000, then will any other brand's pad for s2000 fit on our fn2.

GENONE

06-02-2008, 07:10 PM

Lukits: when you going to the track again?

lukits01

06-02-2008, 08:45 PM

I don't know mate
I'll be trying to do "no limits" as often as I can
unfortunately my tires are bald now ahhaha
and Im broke, this car is a black hole to my wallet

on some days, its worth it though ahhahah
http://www.driveline.net.au/gallery/2008/68/IMG_7255.jpg

GENONE

08-02-2008, 05:27 PM

Im hoping to head out on the 16th but not sure if the sc car will be running good by then, otherwise might take the other one instead...

Cooker

08-02-2008, 08:57 PM

Neo1

20-02-2008, 11:04 PM

Yes another triumph on saturday.
Took home first place again. Did 56.8 (PB 56.7). Even though we won in our class (5A), the overall results of the night are pretty impresive. Check out the results and look how many STI's, Evos, Lotus's and Porsche's including GT3's got demolished.

http://www.natsoft.com.au/cgi-bin/results.cgi?16/02/2008.BARB.Q1

Majority of the top cars there were dedicated track cars and were not road legal.
Cyphers civic is an awesome car and people spin out that its a daily driver.

Good job there cooker, I was under the impression from your avatar that you drive a Golf or from your posts an Audi! Is your Civic stock or has James got his hands on them? PS. I owned an STi for 2 months and handed it back to the Subaru dealer cos I definitely got a LEMON. I bought my FN2 back and am saving sum $$$ to get upgrades from James, just our South African currency is weak against the Oz $, so its a little wait for melol

lukits01

20-02-2008, 11:44 PM

Hahah i think you misunderstood the kind of civic he's talking about
to give you some perspective stock FN2 would only get around 63 sec around barbagello short.

Cooker

21-02-2008, 12:15 AM

Good job there cooker, I was under the impression from your avatar that you drive a Golf or from your posts an Audi! Is your Civic stock or has James got his hands on them?

Nah I dnt own a VW or Audi. Hoping to buy an Audi S2 in the future but will not be racing it, just cruising and keeping it immaculate.

Working at Audi I feel sorry for some customers who are hit up with ridiculous part costs. Eg, from a Dash Cluster $2,500 to a simple Hazard Light Switch $350, or a funny one encountered last week OEM discs and pads on an RS6.... Wait for it $3500 not including labour!!!!

For the $ you cant go faster round a track then you will in a Honda and I have alot of respect for what this little car can do and the engineers that have designed the B and K series engines.

The eg civic in the link is Gavin from Cypher Industries who has tuned it and done all the work himself. I drive it occasionally and am with him at the track helping him setup the car and also as his pit crew on events.

Did James tune it? No he didnt, VTEC comes on at 7,300rpm not 3,800rpm :) (only messing with you James :D)

I'm nearly finished building my eg civic. Just finishing of the engine atm and should hopefully slot it in the car in the next month and be out there in my own car for the July AMR Speed Event race. FINALLY

I think I should start a new thread. I'm talking about stuff that's not even what this thread is about. Sorry Luke.

So back to Luke, when you out there next and what's your currant situation with the car?

lukits01

21-02-2008, 10:02 AM

that's allright mate, its still a technical forum.
Just don't bring in "FN2 Vs FD2 Vs EP3" argument and I'm a happy chap

Car is at a standstill at the moment, trying to figure out what to do with tire and brake choice. Not too happy with how the RE55S are working on this car and due to some bad brake pad choice (and abuse on track), I destroyed my endless rotors. Pretty sure SPOON-Nissin calipers can be made to fit with custom brackets, thinking whether I should wait for Pro-Concept to make one, or just make one myself

went to Tokyo Autosalon at the beginning of the year, managed to talk to a few Honda tuners and see if there are any plans for the FN2. I don't know how much I can read into this, but I went to J's Racing, and they said they are importing a FN2 from Greece *GASP* hope its not just hot air. SPOON cbf importing the car in, and they're busy with their FD2 anyway. Which I manage to have a good look at actually, a lot of custom parts on it that hasn't hit the market yet. Atleast most of the engine parts are interchangeable.

Also brought back a few things I'm trying out on the engine, probably should write it up later. Since you seem to do a bit of car setup, know any good MOTEC tuners or anyone who's touched the K-series in Perth?

B16B

22-02-2008, 11:03 PM

I destroyed my endless rotors.

so which rotor are you running now?

lukits01

23-02-2008, 01:48 AM

Running OEM rotors with Ferodo DS2500
IMHO, the best compromise pad for street/track use

The previous pad couldn't handle the heat caught on fire and the rotors slit started eating on the pad material. Eventually the pad got worn down to the backing plate and it caused some deep scars on the discs.
The heat also cause the endless rotors to develop some hairline cracks.

This happened in the space of few laps. My friend on a S2000 did the same ammount of laps (if not more) with OEM discs and pads and never had any problems.

Pretty disappointed on how the project mu pads and endless discs performed really. Expected more out of them.

lukits01

04-03-2008, 04:51 PM

check out my DIY brake ducts!
not for the faint hearted
requires removal of water washer bottle
and cutting of inner wheel arc lining
http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/7539/brakeductwd0.png

Mick

04-03-2008, 06:04 PM

that looks good actually!
Mean and Nasty!!
Keep it up!, makes me always want to see what your gona do to your car next =P

eccentric

04-03-2008, 07:38 PM

Is it possible to have a air duct from the passenger side fog lamp area to the airbox? So i don't have to replace my broken fog lamp cover

lukits01

04-03-2008, 11:17 PM

Yes its possible,
you could do it like what M&M honda did for the FD2
http://www.mandm-honda.com/partslist_intake_04.html
hahaha a bit hard core for most of us.

Another method is to cut the stock ducting below the battery before the resonator, and connect some ducting to the front bumper from there.
This is probably the easiest solution as it retains most of the original mounting point.

What I did for mine, I bought a really small racing battery, remove all the stock piping coming up into the airbox, bought a 100mm ducting routing straight from the airbox into the passenger side guard, passing where the original battery used to be, and going down to a 4" velocity stack where the horn between the radiator and fog light used to be. (you can sorta see it on the picture above)

I got this idea from SPOON sport Japan, This is what they did for their FD2:
http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/6987/img0112ne6.jpg

However, if you try to follow the stock ducting path with a 3" or 4" duct you will find the duct will sit dangerously close to the gearbox linkages, When it fouls it will jamm your shifter in gear. (guess how I know this! ahhaha)

B16B

05-03-2008, 02:29 AM

is there drilling or welding involved for the front tow hook?

eccentric

05-03-2008, 05:07 AM

Thanks for the headsup lukits, might give it a go

lukits01

05-03-2008, 10:48 AM

Tow Hook is OEM
came with the car with spare tire kit

nunoctr

05-03-2008, 10:50 AM

lukits01 I like your brake ducts, but have you seen this honda racing brake ducts:

http://www.artman-racing.ee/artman/static/files/108.0702-32-Honda-Civic-TypeR-VO-GroupeA.pdf

photo n.º 45, 46 and 47

in this homologation extension form (group A) there are some nice things.

lukits01

05-03-2008, 11:26 AM

Yeh I've seen the JAS Motorsport Parts
Very neat things, and expensive!
Even if I could afford one, sadly AFAIK JAS only sell spare parts to Race Teams who have bought their complete car.

Damn Honda for giving us a type-R without OEM brake Ducts, FD2 and DC5 had massive brake ducts!

eccentric

09-03-2008, 06:41 PM

http://photos-080.ll.facebook.com/photos-ll-sctm/v213/197/21/539740080/n539740080_963657_3706.jpg

kinda stole your idea lukits, hope u dun mind

lukits01

26-03-2008, 03:01 PM

it's not rice!
I SWEAR!

http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k210/VTEChnique/March_2008/SENA_FN2_LED-01.jpg

p.s. thats cool eccentric, great minds think alike ahhaha
are those gramlights? 57s?

BF52

26-03-2008, 03:44 PM

WTH... damn!!! U blinded me with ur pic...
Just u wait! muahahahahaha

eccentric

26-03-2008, 07:43 PM

Audi wannabe.. lol

lukits01

29-03-2008, 03:26 AM

Some vids from an Auto-X event
I'm still too conservative with braking and throttle I reckon
First Run (http://youtube.com/watch?v=hwpH686P2xw)
Second Run (http://youtube.com/watch?v=7qmBz0GpTuw)
Third Run (http://youtube.com/watch?v=DSdjicA977M)

eccentric

29-03-2008, 04:37 AM

Nice videos lukits! Wish I had the time and money to do that. And yeah, grams light 57s optimise time attacks.

Cooker

29-03-2008, 11:33 PM

lukits01

29-03-2008, 11:53 PM

You were pushing harder in your first run. Nice little bit of oposite lock on that hairpin on the first run.

Run 2 was smoother and run 3 looked the best. Going good into that last section on run 3 with that semi scandinavian flick.

Yea, I felt like a hero when I caught that slide ahhaha
1st and 3rd run was pretty close, the 3rd being slightly faster
too bad I hit a cone on the first run
2nd run was too conservative, a bit too smooth probably

GOFN2GO

05-04-2008, 01:23 PM

nice run lukits!
Some inspiration to go faster maybe?? Check it out modena vs fn2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlpTvH6xhXs&feature=related

lukits01

05-04-2008, 03:08 PM

nice run lukits!
Some inspiration to go faster maybe?? Check it out modena vs fn2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlpTvH6xhXs&feature=related

That's FD2R hahaha and it's the one make race model by the looks of it

lukits01

14-04-2008, 10:46 PM

Sold my 17*7.5 ET48 SSR Type-C recently...
replaced it with another set of SSR Type-C (RS Model) ahahha
This time 17*8 ET38 in Gun Metal + 235/45/17 Toyo R888
http://img382.imageshack.us/img382/5122/dscn1251dq8.jpg
http://img383.imageshack.us/img383/7497/dscn1252op2.jpg

It didn't make sense to me that the FN2 would get the same width tires as EP3 and DC5 knowing that it was a heavier car, so I opted for wider rims and tires. The main incentive was because 235 width semi slicks are significantly cheaper here than other sizes.

While I'm at it, after doing some calculations, I wanted to increase the front and rear track as much as possible, with this combo the track is some 46mm wider. Wouldn't advise it to most people. The rears really do sit flush with the guard, it was rubbing the guard by some 2mm which I trimmed off. The front was helped by running -2.5 deg camber but still needed some cutting of the guard liner and trimming of the fenders.

I was never happy with how the Bridgestone RE55S were working on this car, so I thought I'd give Toyo R888 a go. I went to another round of Auto-X with them and they were fantastic! Grip was available from cold! with the Bridgestone I was always worried that the rears have not heated up enough, but with the Toyos I was confident from the start, cut almost 1 sec of my time from the increased confidence alone. I suspect they probably wont perform as well on the track, but I'll find out soon enough.

Also changed my wheel nuts to Project Kicks R40
The RAYS Duralumin Wheel nuts were poor quality!
they chip too damn easily and turn pink after awhile.
http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/3755/image092vf9.jpg

Cooker

14-04-2008, 10:57 PM

Sounds good!

I'll be out in my Eg on the May 31st tuning day setting it up. You gonna be there with your car?

aljames

15-04-2008, 09:55 AM

Cooker.
I read further back that you had a carbon Rear hatch. Being from the Uk, is that the Boot / Tailgate???

If so where did you get it. I'm desperate to get one for my Race FN2. Managed to get a bonnet but need tailgate and wing mirrors to loose some weight.

Cooker

15-04-2008, 01:06 PM

The carbon hatch is on my mates Eg civic. Both our cars are black Eg's with the same Cypher Industries sticker accros the windscreen so lots of people get confused which is which, lol.
He got his carbon hatch from Seibon in the USA. Try there for the FN2. Shipping is rediculous though.

lukits01

15-04-2008, 01:46 PM

Sounds good!

I'll be out in my Eg on the May 31st tuning day setting it up. You gonna be there with your car?

wahh thats so far away
there's a no Limits track night on the 5th of June
most likely go to that one, Gav
but if I manage to get my hands on a data logger
might be doing some setup work on the 31st
I guess we'll see

Cooker

15-04-2008, 03:49 PM

lukits01

16-04-2008, 06:24 PM

haha
I'm not Gav. I help Gav out with his car and at Barbagallos. I just finished building my Eg civic and should be out on the May 31st tuning day setting up the car for the July AMR speed Event race. Gav will also be out with his car on the May 31st tuning day.

if you're not Gav, who are you?? LoL same car and talk about the same thing ahahha

So what's your EG got in comparison? since you're both doing AMR speed series, did you guys go for the last street circuit? forgot where it was...

Cooker

16-04-2008, 08:53 PM

I've been building mine for the last 1 and a half years (took so long due to $$$) and was using Cypher's workshop to work on it after hours.

I'll open a new post about it instead of mucking up yours.

Nah Gav only does the AMR events at barbagallo and doesn't travel to Collie etc. He was at the last AMR at barbagallos and won.

I hope to go to all of them.
May 31st will be my first time out in my Eg since the build.
Check out the post I'll be doing soon.

lukits01

25-05-2008, 11:10 PM

nunoctr

26-05-2008, 12:11 AM

Holy S****

lukits you are my god!

a motec and a group M!!!!!!!:shock:

mr.allmotor

26-05-2008, 12:15 AM

farr man thats all outt looks the goods... good on ya champ

nunoctr

26-05-2008, 12:17 AM

lukits are you using the stock ECU with the motec?

and it was very dificult to put the motec working in the K20Z4 ?

Cooker

26-05-2008, 02:07 AM

Seems you will be out on the 31st thrashing your new package lukits?

lukits01

26-05-2008, 02:30 AM

for a more detailed discussion on installing ECU on 8th gen civic

http://www.8thcivic.com/forums/forced-induction-nitrous/93243-programmable-engine-management-systems-wiring-diagrams-functions-limitations.html

nunoctr

26-05-2008, 04:14 AM

I saw that you done some dyno tuning. What is the your BHP with this mods?

Smoothaz

26-05-2008, 07:21 AM

I love that air filter, please post review on that soon :woohoo:

lukits01

26-05-2008, 11:48 AM

silly me, how could I forget

http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/7812/fn2stockvsmodifiedql9.jpg

Cooker

26-05-2008, 02:46 PM

So thats 187whp? That's impressive. Tell us what drag times you do tonight. Should be 13sec easy.

lukits01

26-05-2008, 04:32 PM

So thats 187whp? That's impressive. Tell us what drag times you do tonight. Should be 13sec easy.

154whp with no mods
187wHp with bolt ons with stock ECU
193wHp with bolt ons with M400

The stock ECU was running things quite well actually
safe air fuel ratio of 13:1 on low cam and 12:1 on high cam,
a tad rich offcourse but safe

I've read that ppl have swapped K24 bottom ends in FG2 chassis over in the US and the stock ECU would still be able to maintain this safe AFR.
Same story with swapping cams on stock ECU.

nunoctr

26-05-2008, 08:01 PM

Lukits, are you runing a decat or race header?

mr.allmotor

26-05-2008, 10:31 PM

great power figure... get it out on the 1/4 mile thats the real dyno

Cooker

26-05-2008, 10:40 PM

Yer you gotta at least do a 13sec to keep up with my 19 year old tiny 1.6L lol

lukits01

27-05-2008, 02:23 AM

unfortunately I suck at the drag strip, like REALLY suck!
only managed 14.5 so far with 60 foot of 2.3
thats bloody slow considering the grip the R888 have off the line.
I underestimated the difficulty of launching a high powered FWD
I'm just so lost and confused in the balancing act of the throttle, clutch slipping, revs, and speed. When I figure out how to launch the damn thing better and get that 60" down to around 2.0 Im sure the car can do a 13 sec pass.

Lukits, are you runing a decat or race header?
Stock header, mate
That's my power cap at the moment, hope CPL wont be too long with their header.

Cooker

27-05-2008, 12:09 PM

Sorry I couldn't come down buddy. We have to go out again when you get your header and my car is defiantly finished, obviously when the season reopens.
14.5sec in a FWD 1300+kg car is still good. Shows the torque of the K20a.
I havn't been down to the drags in my EG yet but on the street I launch at around 3,000rpm, any more and it just wheelspins and once that happans it's still spinning after smashing 2nd . I know every cars differant.

I know I keep pestering you but if you can, come out on the 31st for long track, I don't know if I can make no limits :( .

mr.allmotor

28-05-2008, 12:38 AM

what mph did you run lukits?

nunoctr

28-05-2008, 02:36 AM

Stock header, mate
That's my power cap at the moment, hope CPL wont be too long with their header.

with the stock header this is a very good result.

The race header was the best mod that i had on my ep3 CTR.

your car with a race header and an aftermarket cams will very very fast.

lukits01

28-05-2008, 11:06 AM

what mph did you run lukits?
around 96-97Mph
The timesheet didn't register my Mph on my best run for some reason
but the rest of the night was consistently around that range

with the stock header this is a very good result.

The race header was the best mod that i had on my ep3 CTR.

your car with a race header and an aftermarket cams will very very fast.

Yea, can't wait for a header, no sense changing cams with the stock header.

Sorry I couldn't come down buddy. We have to go out again when you get your header and my car is defiantly finished, obviously when the season reopens.
14.5sec in a FWD 1300+kg car is still good. Shows the torque of the K20a.
I havn't been down to the drags in my EG yet but on the street I launch at around 3,000rpm, any more and it just wheelspins and once that happans it's still spinning after smashing 2nd . I know every cars differant.

I know I keep pestering you but if you can, come out on the 31st for long track, I don't know if I can make no limits.

I forgot my suspension setting was still set for barbagello, that certainly didnt help. There's still a lot to be done to maximise my current setup. Haven't setup the launch limiter in the ECU, or played with various bump and rebound settings on the KWs. So definitely can't do 31st, weather doesn't look good, not a member of WASCC yet this year, no tires left and flat broke after all the work ahahah

Cooker

28-05-2008, 02:18 PM

LOL
Yer story of everyone who has a track car.
I'm hoping it will rain on the 31st so I can get some rain track driving practice. If it is raining I'll go out on my Continental Sport Contact 2 road tyres. You can't really wear tyres out in the rain even at the track.
I might be out for no limits still not sure. Ur defiantly going then?

BF52

28-05-2008, 04:07 PM

Stock header, mate
That's my power cap at the moment, hope CPL wont be too long with their header.

Didnt I tell u?... CPL is no longer making their header.

Coldie

28-05-2008, 05:09 PM

lukits01

28-05-2008, 06:33 PM

Lukits01 - Love the GruppeM - great job! It looks like the one for the FD2R? Great to hear the stock ECU can cope! This will be something I'll definatley look into once the supercharger package has proved itself! I'm looking into new wheels at the moment and am thinking fo going to 17 or 18"X9" - As the upcoming supercharger will no doubt cause loss of traction. What would you recommend? (I've calculated that we have about 18-20mm to play with without making changes to the wheel arches - need offset about +50).

Yeh I think +50 to +48 should do it (with a bit of camber)
I'd be more worried about the inner clearance
Not sure we have that much space before it hits the struts
I've been meaning to try my friends 17*9 +54,
but havent got around to doing it, will let you know once I do
Not that I could ever afford a decent tire in 255/40/17

rldk

29-05-2008, 03:06 PM

lukits01, you seem to know a lot about wheel offsets...
would 17x9.5 +42 fit in the rear of an S2000?

Dok

30-05-2008, 09:12 PM

My near complete engine bay!
Still have to do some fiberglassing with the cowl,
but its coming together nicely so far!

Will get around to writing a review when I actually stop flogging the car!

http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/4002/dscn1280ed1.jpg
http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/3951/dscn1272kn0.jpg

This is kit for FD2 Gruppe M? How much cost? What changes have been installing this kit?

I'd be grateful if you answer me briefly to the questions above. Thank you.

lukits01

30-05-2008, 10:54 PM

I've updated the first post with that info, mate

BRM

05-06-2008, 03:53 AM

Hey Ppl,

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DC5/EP3 camber bolts are the same on the FN2, but make sure you get the 16mm versions. The above (which I bought from Ingalls Engineering USA) are 14mm version which were used in early model DC5 and do not fit.

To my understanding, the standard adjusters should be able to achieve my desired toe settings. This might be a tad agressive, but you have to pay to play.

The castor settings however is a little more complicated, I've emailed KMAC australia about their camber/castor tops. Hope to compare DC5 suspension tops in the near future to see if its the same.

*update*

KW Variant 3 Coilovers
http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/2752/dscf2264nj9.jpg

Now to alignment settings.
I'm starting with the following front settings:
-1.5 Deg Camber each side
0 Toe Out
+4 Deg Castor
Once I get used to the car I will try to get more aggressive settings

The problem is, the rear alignment, being torsion beam suspension, The rear is not adjustable in any way.
My current rear alignment is
-1 Deg Camber each side
5.2mm Total Toe In

The camber is fine, but that excessive Toe in makes it impossible for the rear to come to play at corner entry in a predictable fashion.

Hey there lukits01,

I found these on [URL="http://www.tdi-north.com"]www.tdi-north.com (http://imageshack.us)

You might be interested:

http://www.tdi-north.com/products/honda/honda.jpg
SUSPENSION Type R FN2

Rear camber/toe shims
http://www.tdi-north.com/products/honda/fn2/Suspension/Rearcambertoeshims.jpg

Rear camber/toe shims

lukits01

05-06-2008, 01:10 PM

Hey there lukits01,

I found these on www.tdi-north.com (http://www.tdi-north.com)

You might be interested:

http://www.tdi-north.com/products/honda/honda.jpg
SUSPENSION Type R FN2

Rear camber/toe shims
http://www.tdi-north.com/products/honda/fn2/Suspension/Rearcambertoeshims.jpg

Rear camber/toe shims

cheers bud, I'm waiting for these to be more easily available in Australia, cause I'll probably be trialling different shims to get the allignment I want.

For now, I'm focussing on Weight loss. Aiming for 1200Kg fully fueled.
Check out this pic from Motorstars, note the ammount of sound deadening underneath the carpet area.

http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/8659/img4324mediumfq4.jpg

Cooker

05-06-2008, 03:04 PM

Yer the sound deadening on my EG was more then 10kg :mad: .
Me and gav figured out that with our cars every 20kg is 0.200sec a lap.
Take 100kg out and thats 1sec gained lol !

jugbugz

06-06-2008, 06:51 AM

lukits01

06-06-2008, 11:49 AM

How true about the weight!
(p.s. that pic above is not my car ahha its motorstars rally FN2)
Though mine isn't completely different, I stripped the interior B-pillar back lost some 60Kg! Went to Barbagello last night, got to the weightbridge read 1217Kg with half tank. Not too shabby at all, I think after removing sound deadening and changing to full bucket seats, I should be able to reach 1200Kg fully fueled+air bags.

Anyway, took it easy for the first few runs, OMG! the car is an animal, midrange is awesome! I'm never out of VTEC coming out of a corner. Downside was the torque steer the extra power generated coming out of some of the tighter corners. Spent a few runs sorting out the suspension settings and tire pressures managed to solve the torque steer. By the end of the night, it was handling like a gem! 1200Kg + KWv3 + R888 == FTW!

Managed a 58.8 lap on Barbagello short track, my instructor reckons with a bit more time, the car is able to do high 57s! To get some idea of lap times modified cars do at Barbagello short: No Limits Lap Records (http://www.nolimitevents.com/e107_plugins/forum/forum_viewtopic.php?723)

Unfortunately my in car camera wasn't working, but managed to find time to film fly bys from the pits, will post a vid later.

Cooker

06-06-2008, 01:52 PM

Now were talking!!
Strip that whale :D
That's very good times buddy congratulations. I wasn't able to come out (obviously) as I'm saving $ and getting ready for the July AMR Sprint. I'll be out on the June 28th tuning day setting up if you wana bring your K20 monster out.

BF52

06-06-2008, 02:40 PM

Just as a comparision, my stock weight FN2 did 59.7s @ the same event.

Cooker

06-06-2008, 02:42 PM

Yer and Lukits has more power?

BF52

06-06-2008, 02:45 PM

Lukits has 192whp... ive not had mine on a dyno yet.

lukits01

06-06-2008, 03:27 PM

Wow! 193whp? Thats like 250bhp+ at the motor! How did that happen? The only Honda I saw reaching above 190whp was an S2000 running on a shitty AFC.

Looks like you'll be needing another car for a daily drive :)

btw, is the silver hose to the intake a part of the GruppeM kit or self modified?

The biggest let down from the FN2 is the weight. You should have less problems with understeer now. I believe you know my bro ed?

the silver hose is a Sard Alluminium ducting which ends with a Billion 100mm velocity stack at the front bumper for CAI affect. It wasn't part of the Gruppe M kit, but I retrofitted it to feed more cold air in, works like a charm! Finally able to compete evenly with modified S2000s.

p.s. Yea I met ur brother once, So you're the one with JDM EK9?

jugbugz

06-06-2008, 03:36 PM

the silver hose is a Sard Alluminium ducting which ends with a Billion 100mm velocity stack at the front bumper for CAI affect. It wasn't part of the Gruppe M kit, but I retrofitted it to feed more cold air in, works like a charm! Finally able to compete evenly with modified S2000s.

p.s. Yea I met ur brother once, So you're the one with JDM EK9?

Yeh thats right.

Nice, I'd like to see more pics of your intake, I've ordered a J's Racing CF intake for my DC5R, I went for this over the GruppeM because of the 15000cc volume it has. Air ducts right in front of the grill. Have you seen it?

lukits01

06-06-2008, 03:55 PM

Yeh thats right.

Nice, I'd like to see more pics of your intake, I've ordered a J's Racing CF intake for my DC5R, I went for this over the GruppeM because of the 15000cc volume it has. Air ducts right in front of the grill. Have you seen it?

Yes I have! Was actually at J's racing last year, they showed me the DC5 and FD2 intakes when I told them I wanted to retrofit one to an FN2. The DC5 one was impressive, but it was too much of a custom fit for me. The FD2 box was impressive to look at, but underneath the cover it was just a hollowed out OEM box really.

So which one is the race car and which one is the daily driver, mate? DC5, EK9, NA1? ahahah

jugbugz

06-06-2008, 04:14 PM

Yes I have! Was actually at J's racing last year, they showed me the DC5 and FD2 intakes when I told them I wanted to retrofit one to an FN2. The DC5 one was impressive, but it was too much of a custom fit for me. The FD2 box was impressive to look at, but underneath the cover it was just a hollowed out OEM box really.

So which one is the race car and which one is the daily driver, mate? DC5, EK9, NA1? ahahah

Yeh I cant wait to receive it, its actually made by order, so theyll only make it after they see some $$$ lol

Yeh I saw the FD2 one, seems like theyre cutting costs... it is pretty expensive to fabricate.

Well, my ctr is a bit too rough for everyday drive, but I just love driving it over my stock DC5R and stock DC2R. DC2R is the most powerful even stock! But handling, EK kills it!

jugbugz

06-06-2008, 04:16 PM

Just as a comparision, my stock weight FN2 did 59.7s @ the same event.

its more about the driver, I'm sure a really good driver could smash a few more seconds with lukitz car. We cant deny its fast, much faster than a stock FN2

lukits01

06-06-2008, 04:26 PM

its more about the driver, I'm sure a really good driver could smash a few more seconds with lukitz car. We cant deny its fast, much faster than a stock FN2

:woohoo: oh cmon... give me a bit more credit ahahah I'm learning.
While we're on the subject of comparing times, stock FN2 + Ferodo DS2500 front pads did 62.1 at the same event. Was quite fun last night! 3 FN2 and 2 AP1 out on track together.

jugbugz

06-06-2008, 04:30 PM

:woohoo: oh cmon... give me a bit more credit ahahah I'm learning.
While we're on the subject of comparing times, stock FN2 + Ferodo DS2500 front pads did 62.1 at the same event. Was quite fun last night! 3 FN2 and 2 AP1 out on track together.

hahaha, I was giving your car credits :mrgreen:

Nah, everyone improves over time. btw, does water get into the GruppeM intake?

jugbugz

06-06-2008, 04:34 PM

also what diameter exhuast you got? 2.5in? stock?

lukits01

06-06-2008, 04:42 PM

jugbugz

06-06-2008, 07:45 PM

2.5" mandrel bends, made by Exhaust Torque in Bibra Lakes.
a bit of water gets into the box, but not enough even under heavy rain to cause any worry. the box has a drain hole underneath where it all goes out anyway.

yeh hope nothing happens to it like some dickhead go and pour a bucket of water into it. lol... that wasnt funny...just playin..:lala:

what would you say is the biggest improvement on acceleration mod done to your car? Did exhuast help a lot? I think the stock exhuast on FN2 is pretty good, looks almost free flow. Anyway, your car is almost like a modded JDM DC5 now, I like all the mods done to your car. Good choices!

btw how was tuning with the MOTEC? Easy? I mean, K20A has 6 mappings to touch so mustve been pretty hard, who tuned and installed it? Any problems with it? How much? PM me if its too personal.. ::D

Cooker

06-06-2008, 08:18 PM

While we're on the subject of comparing times, stock FN2 + Ferodo DS2500 front pads did 62.1 at the same event. Was quite fun last night! 3 FN2 and 2 AP1 out on track together.

:( A shame I couldn't make it. Whats your best time on long circuit so far?
You coming out on 28th for some long circuit setup?

GOFN2GO

07-06-2008, 08:19 AM

hmm considering i suck, i think the stock fn2 can do 61 *fingers crossed* haha

lukits01

07-06-2008, 04:12 PM

what would you say is the biggest improvement on acceleration mod done to your car? Did exhuast help a lot?

btw how was tuning with the MOTEC? Easy? I mean, K20A has 6 mappings to touch so mustve been pretty hard, who tuned and installed it? Any problems with it? How much? PM me if its too personal.. ::D

Acceleration wise, the Motec did the most, followed by weight loss, the bolts on did very little by themselves, the stock ECU was limiting all the gains. Got it installed by Unique Autosport (Glen Baker) he's one of the approved Motec distributors in Perth. I don't have any issues with the Motec per say, except that I had to disable VSA, and the Check Engine Light is constantly on, still working to resolve this. The motec only has 1 main fuel table. Only the kpro has multiple maps for fuel economy.

:( A shame I couldn't make it. Whats your best time on long circuit so far?
You coming out on 28th for some long circuit setup?

Nah, can't justify the tuning days without timing gear. I'll be up again to No Limits next month. I've never taken note of my times on the long circuit isn't it roughly +10secs of the short track time?

Cooker

08-06-2008, 02:01 PM

Roughly yer.
Come out and me and gav won't mind timing you.
I think your car and mine are gona be fairly even once I get it all setup.

jugbugz

08-06-2008, 09:59 PM

Roughly yer.
Come out and me and gav won't mind timing you.
I think your car and mine are gona be fairly even once I get it all setup.

I think you got some serious competition with Lukitz car. lol Best way to find out is for 1 driver to drive both cars and see the times. :D

jugbugz

08-06-2008, 10:01 PM

But ofcourse, you cant compare 1.6 vs 2.0 class

lukits01

08-06-2008, 11:19 PM

LoL my biggest single driving force is competing with friends with AP1 and DC5. For the moment I'm ahead by a mere few hundredth of a second
Thanks to the weight loss hahaha
http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/7225/dscn1289jp1.jpg

All out EG or EK race cars are just out of my league, they aren't burdened by all the safety gear todays safety standards enforce on manufacturers.

Cooker

09-06-2008, 01:37 AM

Thats SIK!!!!
Massive respect LUKITS for gutting half your brand new car!!!
Everyone winges when they see my car saying I've gone to far but I love driving it like that, and If I wana go for a nice comfy cruise I'll just back the shocks to soft or even better just drive my stock Integra.

But ofcourse, you cant compare 1.6 vs 2.0 class
In the AMR speed event series it's 0-2L so LUKITS would be in my class. And remember Gavs civic is a 1.6L and has the 0-2L lap record.

Power isn't everything. But saying that, LUKITS has a heap more then me which will be usefull for pulling away from me up that steep hill on long circuit!! I'll have to rely on corner exit speed while he just grins and plants his right foot letting that 2L torque pull him away.
I think it'll be really really close.

I've given up hope of keeping up with Gav as I don't have aftermarket cams and I have no roll cage (for stiffness).

PS: for the time being :D

Brett

09-06-2008, 02:36 PM

Seems I'd better get my A into G!

Heh!

;)

jugbugz

09-06-2008, 04:19 PM

Lukitz: wow, not many people would have one that far to strip a FN2?? lol, I thought I remembered you mentioned you bought the FN2 over DC5 for luxury? haha But thats a very nice job! You thinking of putting a rollcage? Lots of room there ;)

Cooker: wow, thats a bit unfair that 1.6L are in the same class as 2.0l? i guess an EG chassis would suit best in that kind of event. How the heck did you get your car down to 1030kgs including driver??! Whats the weight without driver? I remembered the EG6 SiR weight being 1090kgs.

Cooker

09-06-2008, 04:40 PM

It was 980kg at the last track day with a full tank of fuel and the passenger seat removed and 1040kg with me.

Since then I've done/or am currently doing sound deadening, removal of A/C and a few other secret things, so new weight should be 1030kg with driver easy (should be more but to be safe 1030kg). There's alot more you can get out with Carbon eg.Carbon bonnet, doors, hatch etc. I'm to poor yet to get any Carbon items.
I'll let you know at the next tuning day what it weighs.
Remember I don't have a roll-cage yet which is an additional 30kg!!!

If you wana talk about a light car, Gav's civic is 970kg with half a tank of fuel, both fronts seats in it and a rollcage.

lukits01

09-06-2008, 04:52 PM

Lukitz: wow, not many people would have one that far to strip a FN2?? lol, I thought I remembered you mentioned you bought the FN2 over DC5 for luxury? haha But thats a very nice job! You thinking of putting a rollcage? Lots of room there ;)

It's still got Luxuries! for the front passenger anyway, can't say the same for the rear passengers ahaha The main turn off for the DC5/EP3 for me was the damn front suspension geometry. Its a bloody headache to modify properly.

Chi

09-06-2008, 11:39 PM

It's still got Luxuries! for the front passenger anyway, can't say the same for the rear passengers ahaha The main turn off for the DC5/EP3 for me was the damn front suspension geometry. Its a bloody headache to modify properly.

Yeap I agree witht he sussy on the ep3/dc5 front end being a nightmare to fix.

Damn very nice build so far.

read the whole thread in one night lol.

keept the updates coming.

You've definately changed my view on FN2R's potential.

If only they made it in white.

lukits01

15-06-2008, 04:21 PM

a few fly by shots from awhile back
only found the vid recently
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZ82WQEK_UI

Luke123456

16-06-2008, 08:48 PM

omg ur fn2 sounds fukin sick

Ljubo(LJ)

17-06-2008, 01:49 AM

Man I just read the whole post in one go, you did a lot of mods in last 12 months, I remember at last years autosalon it was the first FN ever in OZ on dyno and this year it's gonna be the most powerfull in OZ hehe, well done. I just sold my S2K, decided to go for EP3 so in near future I may challenge you a bit :-)

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Reothe

17-06-2008, 09:20 PM

Not quite as sick as the yellow s2k with full titanium exhaust :D heehee

B16B

21-06-2008, 03:49 AM

Roughly yer.
Come out and me and gav won't mind timing you.
I think your car and mine are gona be fairly even once I get it all setup.

:kiss: can you time me too?

banong

21-06-2008, 10:12 AM

look at your dyno sheet

i am so confuse,,
doesnt stock type R suppose to be 148 kw compare your stock 140kw

Reothe

21-06-2008, 01:16 PM

u mean 148 killa wasps at the engine..not at the wheel :P lol

DC5S

21-06-2008, 01:54 PM

Just looked at your vid lukits, lol omg, what a ferrari! lol sounded brave and f*ken bold!

Cooker

21-06-2008, 03:37 PM

:kiss: can you time me too?

Sure, we are within 1 10th acurate.

BRM

22-06-2008, 10:17 AM

Brakes

Brakes, man... I hate these brakes, its so spongy! Im throwing between Carbonetics Carbon Street Pads and Ferodo DS2500.
The front brake pads are the same part as S2000 and AUSDM DC5
unfortunately the rear pads are unique to the FN2, this is because the rear pads were designed to work with EBD and they have a softer compound than the front brakes. You probably noticed the rear brakes having more dust than the fronts. Also looking into the powerslot 350mm discs that Tubby has installed in his car.

http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/8237/dscn1165kq0.jpg

Managed to score 300mm Endless straight-6 front brake discs for a decent price. These are same size and shape as OEM discs. they are slotted, lighter and therefore resist heat better. If im not mistaken they are the same part as used in AUDM DC5/EP3/AP1

I've decided to try out Carbonetics Street Pads for the front brakes, and maybe switch to ferodo DS2500 when they have both front and rear set.
Also changed brake fluid to MOTUL RBF600 dot 4 fluid, needed 2 bottles to completely bleed the system.
First impressions are great, cold bite is great, initial pedal bite is much more responsive. Only track time will tell if they can cop some abuse.

While we are on the subject, FN2 owners who plan to take their cars to the track be warned! The stock pads are not able to take much abuse. After 4 track days I noticed the brakes would fade very quickly, so I took a good look at them:
http://img391.imageshack.us/img391/7210/dscn1185gb2.jpg
Sorry for the blurry photo, my camera not very good at taking closeups
if you can see the pad material have been severely worn down and on same of the pad faces you can begin to see the 'glue' that keep the pad together

*update*
Man these cars are punishing on brakes, damn Honda for only giving us single piston calipers at the front! My set of carbonetics street pads 0-500 couldn't take the abuse of one track day. They overheated, caught fire, and was grinded to metal backing in 1 session. Unfortunately this also scared my Endless rotors! gagh... As a temporary measure, I tried out Cabonetics Street/Track Pads 0-800deg and these were much much better at the track. They don't fade and they can handle the heat. The problem is they are quite noisy on the streets. So I replaced them with Ferodo DS2500. I've heard a lot of people raving on about these pads, so first impressions on the street so far is they are quiet and not very dusty.

.

Hey there man, totaly agree with you.

Now, do you want to shave some time out of your best laps so far, then have a look:

New Honda Civic type R (2007), AP Racing front brake kit

Part # CP6637-1002.CG8 ( black calipers) List £1483.79

Part # CP6637-1002R2.CG8 ( red calipers) List £1509.64
Involves
4-pot road spec calipers.
Ø330x26mm 2 piece discs i.e. bolted to alloy bell centres
Ferodo Ds2500 fast road / track pads
Standard hose adaptors
High temp fluid
Caliper mount brackets
All mounting bolts etc..

It looks like a race car but is in fact the promotions vehicle for the British Touring Car race team running the Type R during 2008.
The calipers are not painted in this case because the Team wanted them to look like the full race car, but they normally come in red or black finish.

So..., wot do you think??

lukits01

22-06-2008, 11:46 AM

speak of the devil... I just sorted out my braking issues LoL
Haven't tested it though, will do the write up after...
JDM SPEC FTW!
http://img103.imageshack.us/img103/4660/dscn1292vc3.jpg

Cooker

22-06-2008, 05:51 PM

The most hardcore FN2 in Australia just keeps getting better. LOL
What size are them discs? 300mm?

lukits01

22-06-2008, 07:11 PM

Its just JDM caliper, everything else is stock

seiken

22-06-2008, 07:13 PM

nice brembos!!!

did you need custom made brackets to fit those or was it a direct bolt on?

seik

lukits01

22-06-2008, 07:19 PM

Brake lines and caliper is straight swap, they dont need brackets or anything. The problem is the discs and rims.
The discs need to be spaced out 7.5mm further out,
or use S2000 Rotors as they have the perfect offset.
Rims need to be aggressive offset, I'm effectively running 18*7.5 +30 offset. The RE30 I borrowed in the pic was 17*9 +45 and it barely cleared the caliper.

seiken

22-06-2008, 07:52 PM

lukits01

22-06-2008, 09:16 PM

nice!!!

I've been considering doing a 4 pot upgrade on the car (car gets taken to track often), didn't know which options we could take though.

Since it was a straight swap to jdm brembo's and as far as i'm aware spoon monoblock is a straight swap for brembo's, does this mean we can use spoon monoblocks on our car? i know the monoblocks use s2000 pads which the fn2 uses as well but it can't be that simple can it? lol

i'm assuming the brembo's are from the ITR? Did you need to upgrade the master brake cylinder as well?

Also aren't the oem rims +45 offset which you could use as well as you said in your post?

Seik

SPOON EP3 kit is straight bolt on, pretty sure. I believe it's been tried in the UK (saw it on one of their forums) As far as I can tell FD2 and DC5 Brembo are the same caliper except for the position of the bleeder valve. I have no evidence that the master cyliender is any different between FD2/FN2/DC5/EP3 so I didn't bother looking it up.

Oem rims is 18*7.5 +55 no way in hell its going to fit.

lukits01

22-06-2008, 09:55 PM

Borrowed RE30 is Ballin LoL
Well until I get spacers made to clear my rims might as well take a pic
http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/2808/dscn1303oy4.jpg

Luke123456

22-06-2008, 10:11 PM

lukits reppin fn2's fo sho

Ljubo(LJ)

22-06-2008, 11:39 PM

Looks very good, red on red hehe

nunoctr

23-06-2008, 01:21 AM

Hi lukits01,

is this the DC5 or the FD2 brembos?

and the FD2 uses a 18-7,5 + 60 offset so how can this brembo fit with that offset?

lukits01

23-06-2008, 04:30 AM

JDM hubs and Brembo Brake discs have ridiculously high offset to clear the high offset wheels. I'm using DC5 calipers as they were easily available, the only downside is the bleeder valve is on the wrong way because originally the DC5 brembos were rear mounted. To bleed the caliper you need to take it off and tip it upside down. The FD2 caliper would be on the right way.

Brett

23-06-2008, 01:01 PM

Looks awesome. There is nothing better then the linear feel of decent multi-piston calipers - gives a lot of confidence on the track.

... the only downside is the bleeder valve is on the wrong way because originally the DC5 brembos were rear mounted ...

Cant you simply swap left-to-right to fix this? Or do they have leading/trailing pistons etc?

:hmm:: :cool:

lukits01

23-06-2008, 02:40 PM

Looks awesome. There is nothing better then the linear feel of decent multi-piston calipers - gives a lot of confidence on the track.

Cant you simply swap left-to-right to fix this? Or do they have leading/trailing pistons etc?

:hmm:: :cool:

yep they have different size leading/trailing piston, wouldn't have it any other way.

GENONE

24-06-2008, 04:31 PM

Senna - you do know that spacers are illegal right?

if anything happens on the street and you're accident is caused by a wheel falling off etc, and they find spacers on your car you could be in big trouble not to mention insurance is invalid. *on track there is ofcourse no insurance anyway and you run what you brung*

lukits01

24-06-2008, 04:56 PM

yeh I know. I've gone a long way to ensure I do this properly.
I've got motorsport grade extended wheel studs (+20mm) and the spacers were custom machined for the Honda spigot and RAYS wheel centre hole.
I'm pretty confident if wont fall off LoL

eriktufa

25-06-2008, 03:42 PM

Awesome ride mate, keep it up!!!

rldk

25-06-2008, 03:43 PM

the spacers might not fail... but the nuts may... if it wasnt tightened.. cough cough...

BF52

25-06-2008, 04:04 PM

ahahahahahahhhaa

wuism

25-06-2008, 04:39 PM

Lol..
Mauahahah.....

Reothe

25-06-2008, 04:43 PM

I'm sure Sena has very hard nuts that won't fall off too easily with just a few screws :D lol

lukits01

25-06-2008, 04:46 PM

WTF! why are you arses in my thread!
Stop Spamming! We already have our own forum for that!

BF52

25-06-2008, 04:50 PM

ahahhhahhhaaaahahahhaha

wuism

25-06-2008, 07:06 PM

WTF! why are you arses in my thread!
Stop Spamming! We already have our own forum for that!

lol... how much did those spacers cost?

MUAAHAHAHAHAH

oh.. and how many did u get?

ROFL!

rldk

25-06-2008, 07:12 PM

hahaha cos spamming is fun... did you check your wheel nuts? Lest you forget to tighten them... they might fall off...

Chi

25-06-2008, 11:04 PM

You might want to upgrade your MBC and Proportional valve for suit those brembos.

I did it to mine and it made a difference ( DC5 wise )

lukits01

26-06-2008, 12:05 AM

You might want to upgrade your MBC and Proportional valve for suit those brembos.

I did it to mine and it made a difference ( DC5 wise )

really? I thought it was the same between JDM and AUDM DC5?

Brett

27-06-2008, 05:57 PM

It's the total piston area that is important. If they are the same or similar, then no attention is required to the M/C, the prop valve, F/R balance etc etc.

(Tip: If you are going to calculate this then do not forget to double the piston area on 'floating' calipers!)

;)

lukits01

29-07-2008, 02:02 PM

Did a back to back dyno run with BF52 over the weekend at Perth Autosalon with interesting results!
His car has the JTune Extreme Kit Prototype but still missing the CAI

Black line is BF52
Blue line is Lukits01
Red line is Wuism (DC5R 4th gear with FN2 Final Drive on a different day)
http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/4171/scan0001gy7nu4.jpg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTeUcDyQR5U

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQ41IVztoQk

JTune VTEC is set to 3800Rpm ~ 80Kph
My VTEC is set to 4400Rpm ~ 90Kph

It would seem I've lost a bit of low down power but gained a lot from the JDM Manifold and Intake! (Assuming all other things being equal) Then again I'm still on stock header!

Another thing learnt, DC5 and EP3 gearbox has killer 4-5-6 ratios!
Something I'm looking into in the near future

http://img68.imageshack.us/img68/3618/dsc05215wc1.jpg

digiozz

29-07-2008, 03:14 PM

thats a bloody awesome pic, wheels look great on it too...

fn2r

29-07-2008, 06:48 PM

Any comment for KW V3 coil? i am thinking og getting 1.

nunoctr

29-07-2008, 07:56 PM

what are the engine mods on Wuism car ?

lukits your car is very strong on top!

mr.allmotor

30-07-2008, 12:44 AM

whats the fn2r final drive??

lukits01

30-07-2008, 12:46 AM

Wuism has his own thread in here somewhere, though we were both surprised the dyno showed we had the same power, we've swapped cars before and the difference in power is quite obvious when you really hammer it.

KWs are fantastic! Default settings has better ride than factory. Adjustment is very linear and have little or no interference between bump and rebound. For suspension always go European first time everytime!

lukits01

30-07-2008, 01:02 AM

whats the fn2r final drive??
5.062 I believe same as FD2 and CRV

wuism

30-07-2008, 02:40 AM

what are the engine mods on Wuism car ?

lukits your car is very strong on top!

http://forums.clubitr.com.au/showthread.php?t=3191

no kpro on the dyno run this time though.. it was done on stock ECU

lukits01

30-07-2008, 02:09 PM

Some more pics from the weekend

http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k210/VTEChnique/Perth%20AUTOSALON%202008/AS2008_31.jpg
http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k210/VTEChnique/Perth%20AUTOSALON%202008/AS2008_28.jpg
http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k210/VTEChnique/Perth%20AUTOSALON%202008/AS2008_16.jpg
http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k210/VTEChnique/Perth%20AUTOSALON%202008/AS2008_15.jpg
http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k210/VTEChnique/Perth%20AUTOSALON%202008/AS2008_14.jpg

Smoothaz

30-07-2008, 09:45 PM

man... your car is lookin better and better. keep it up mate.

Cooker

30-07-2008, 09:46 PM

The white writing "Bridgestone" looks kok!

digiozz

31-07-2008, 01:48 AM

its probably been answered somewhere before no doubt, but what $$$ are we looking at for the LSD?

BRM

31-07-2008, 07:36 AM

Some more pics from the weekend

http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k210/VTEChnique/Perth%20AUTOSALON%202008/AS2008_14.jpg

Hey there Lukits, looks fab, and the sound of the gruppem.... wow...,

What size spacers do you have with the ce28ns???

lukits01

31-07-2008, 12:01 PM

http://www.autotech.com/
for Torsen LSDs

Hey there Lukits, looks fab, and the sound of the gruppem.... wow...,

What size spacers do you have with the ce28ns???

cheers bud,
its effectively a 20mm spacer
so the wheels are now 18*7.5 ET30

wuism

31-07-2008, 02:55 PM

i have oem dc5r lsd....

pm me if u would like it.

dinoc

05-08-2008, 07:35 AM

lukits01

05-08-2008, 06:26 PM

Hi guys ,

This is my first post here.
I own a CTR and for the moment I'm interested in a short shifter and Quaife LSD .

@lukits01 (http://www.hondatech.com.au/forum/member.php?u=2735) you did an awesome job with your car !!!

I was wondering if the TWP short shifter and all bushings worth the money , are you happy with this ?

I only have the linkage bushings
never liked short shifters, so didnt buy them
think there's plenty of reviews on 8th gen forums if you're looking for more detail

dinoc

06-08-2008, 10:52 PM

Thanks lukits01!

How about Quaife LSD, does this work fine with the VSA, any interferences between them ?

lukits01

07-08-2008, 12:54 AM

Thanks lukits01!

How about Quaife LSD, does this work fine with the VSA, any interferences between them ?

Yes its fine, they work together, VSA reacts electronically to a loss of traction.
LSD gives you more traction.

dinoc

07-08-2008, 10:04 PM

Thanks lukits01 ! This is GREAT !

Chi

31-08-2008, 11:12 PM

I Want updates !!!

Luke123456

31-08-2008, 11:21 PM

relax egg boy ull get ur updates

Cooker

01-09-2008, 12:26 AM

Yer I wana know what lap times you do around long circuit in your cars currant guise!!!! lol

GOFN2GO

01-09-2008, 12:39 AM

I'd say about a minute flat hahaha....

lukits01

01-09-2008, 12:00 PM

uhm... no updates lately, my funds for audacious mods have dried up ahahaha
I Just recently bought this though:
http://www.goprocamera.com/index5.htm
Should take some pretty good footage!
Got a couple of rice bits coming here and there, but nothing major.

In the back of my head Im tossing between Cam kit or a pair of Full Bucket Seat. Leaning towards seats but haven't quite decided which one.

wuism

02-09-2008, 06:28 PM

y not buy both?

Reothe

02-09-2008, 06:33 PM

lol yeah just get both.. sif funds will ever dry up for u sena :P rofl

rldk

15-09-2008, 08:40 PM

I heard from the grapevines that this car is now sporting a dry carbon bonnet!! WOW!!

Cooker

15-09-2008, 10:10 PM

How did it go at the hillclimb?
Gav told me he saw you when he was driving up.

GOFN2GO

16-09-2008, 12:12 AM

Beat the yellow sprinter...

lukits01

16-09-2008, 12:13 PM

How did Carbon Manifold cover become bonnet?

Hillclimb was awesome, too bad the photographer only took pictures of GOFN2GO there (bet he thought it was the same car) we look like twins with same decals on the car ahahah
http://www.pbase.com/barnsie01/jacks_hill_130908&page=all

I had 2 wet runs and 2 dry runs, on the dry stuff managed to go 2 seconds faster than my previous visit to Jack's Hill. I contribute most of that gain from the ECU tune, weight loss, and some more suspension tuning. I'm pretty happy with the rear end now despite the factory allignment can still manage to do 3 wheelies around the tight stuff.
The car liftoff oversteer beautifully.
http://www.pbase.com/barnsie01/image/96765965
Now the front suspension needs a bit more work given the extra torque from the tune. It's great in long sweeping corners where I can maintain momentum. But in the tighter 2nd gear corners the inside front tends to lift more than I'd like, having problems putting power down at exit. Damn FWD, we're driving the wrong wheel!

Ideally a stiffer front swaybars would be the go, but I havent seen anybody offer thicker replacements (JAS motorsport asside) hoping whiteline will get a project car soon. Band air solution would be to dial up the bump forces, but I have to double check with KW to make sure the adjustment is low speed bump only. Really not looking forward to flying off kerbs on Barbagello S's.

Now the Brakes, Brembos are da shiznits! This is my first real event with the new calipers, I was totally blown away on the initial practice run, took sometime to get used to the new setup. It takes about half the amount of pedal force to slow down the car, threshold braking is now a breeze. With the stock calipers I had to stomp on the pedal really hard to get to the braking limits, kinna numbs all the feel, but not anymore.

But after all that's said and done, still miles behind Tom's Sprinter and all those B-reg cars. And there's that damn EG driven by Tsung Lee. Need more seat time, drive faster! Come this sunday CMON! Superkhana!

GENONE

16-09-2008, 04:11 PM

Lee did a very good job that day. You did some nice times too Senna!!!

did the camera work for you? I'll upload some photos from Ian's runs soon... we just used my handicam and suction cup.

Cooker

16-09-2008, 08:41 PM

Good work Senna.
Is Tsung Lee's the one with the K20 in it?
Where is the site with the times on it from the day?

GOFN2GO

16-09-2008, 10:31 PM

Lee has a stock B16a.
Come faster superkhana Sunday lol

lukits01

17-09-2008, 01:21 AM

http://www.speedeventseries.com/
always slow to upload times
atleast they fixed up my photos ahhah
thought the two FN2s were one and the same

Didnt get any vids mike, forgot to recharge the batteries!
I'll definitely will have footage on this sunday's superkhana
GAGH! Hope you had more luck with your camera ahaha

lukits01

15-10-2008, 02:26 AM

I have an addiction problem I think

CARBON CARBON CARBON

http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/5559/dscn1324tp6.jpg
http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/8577/dscn1322dn5.jpg
http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/5127/dscn1320by9.jpg

GOFN2GO

15-10-2008, 03:43 AM

Where's the Carbon wide body?? :P

BRM

15-10-2008, 04:32 AM

I have an addiction problem I think

CARBON CARBON CARBON

Hey lukits01,

Looks cool!!

Is it Seibon?? Do you know the weight diference to the OEM one??

Any news on the LSD mate??

Keep up the good work...

nunoctr

15-10-2008, 09:46 AM

you can buy one more carbon part:

the radiator cover:

http://www.quantumautosport.com/qas/shop/popup_image.php?pID=1381&osCsid=e05f488d94e519c490e3a084fcb2c267

Mick

15-10-2008, 11:46 AM

oh . that looks so hawt!!!!

Luke123456

15-10-2008, 09:28 PM

ok holy shit!
that is sexy

Cooker

16-10-2008, 12:42 AM

That looks kok!!!!!
You coming out to the tuning day this saturday?

lukits01

16-10-2008, 11:43 AM

The hood is Seibon, havent weight it
engine covers are Password JDM
Reluctant to buy European products with the worthless OZ$ income

Nah, not going to tuning day, got superkhana on Sunday
Thinking of stripping out the carpet on Saturday + dry ice
hmmm....

Cooker

17-10-2008, 03:19 AM

Theres no dry ice until december bcos of gas crisis.
Tell me if you can get it earlier I need some.

BRM

17-10-2008, 05:39 AM

CARBON CARBON CARBON

http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/5127/dscn1320by9.jpg

Hey mate, if you have a litle bit of time, could you post some pics of the Bonnet, but the inside part, please....

Thanks man.

chris+F

17-10-2008, 11:28 AM

this is the most tastefull and purposefully modified fnr I've ever seen. Top work.

I saw a Motech m400 in your engine bay... so jealous :P

Luke123456

23-10-2008, 10:28 PM

How much wieght do u rekon u cud save by taking out all sound deadening under carpet?

dinoc

23-10-2008, 11:36 PM

Looks beautifull with the carbon hood.
Any idea about wight saving with this hood , compared with the OEM one ?

dinoc

01-11-2008, 07:24 AM

mw1978

02-11-2008, 06:38 AM

I have an addiction problem I think

CARBON CARBON CARBON

http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/5127/dscn1320by9.jpg

LUKITS do you have picture with carbon fibre hood from another perspective???

lukits01

02-11-2008, 06:56 PM

lukits01

02-11-2008, 07:00 PM

I have installed a Quaife LSD, also , butafter install I have noticed the following issue.
When I engage into first gear , I feel a small vibration in transmission, like the car wants to move forward just a little bit , you must pay attention to this in order to notice it .

Not sure if is related to the diff or not, or maybe something could be wrong during install ?
Any idea what could cause this ?

@lukits01 (http://www.hondatech.com.au/forum/member.php?u=2735) have you encountered such issue with yours ? any idea if something wrong what could be ?

hmm I think I know what you're talking about, I had this for awhile but it went away. I don't think its the diff, my guess is it's either the transmission fluid or the shifter mechanism on the gearbox has moved slightly during the LSD install.

dinoc

03-11-2008, 01:59 AM

Dok

03-11-2008, 09:01 AM

@lukits know what difference there is between quiafe LSD and Wavetrac (http://www.autotechdriveline.com/a_wavdiff.shtml) LSD?

GENONE

04-11-2008, 01:00 PM

Sena, im very happy with your progress mate!!! :) you're seriously turning this car into one of THE BEST TypeRs in the southern hemisphere if not the best already...!!!! WELL DONE mate!

I can't wait to race ya!

BRM

05-11-2008, 02:17 AM

Here's a pic of underneath the bonnet
I don't have any other pic at the moment
The weight saving is not that much I would think
the standard bonnet is pretty small and light to begin with
plus this is only Wet carbon, and I believe its fibreglass underneath

http://img236.imageshack.us/img236/6051/dscn1329gc4.jpg

Well, does look neat from under...

Not sure about the fact it might be fibreglass under tho! it adds weight!

Found Another Bonnet, see attached pics.

Also need to find out if i can fit the GruppeM on any of these 2 bonnets!!!

lukits01

08-11-2008, 12:43 PM

Few action shots

http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/8206/img2425mediumrd7.jpg
http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/7436/img2428mediumpf8.jpg
http://img363.imageshack.us/img363/4995/img2374mediummv7.jpg
http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/9814/img2432mediumws2.jpg
http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/6527/img2436mediumit9.jpg
http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/3299/img2398mediumgh2.jpg

lukits01

08-11-2008, 01:07 PM

I see , so you had the same feeling, did you feel that vibration (little shock) like the cars wants to move forward ?
So it has just disappear by itself ?

PS> I've just remembered they changed the fluid from the gearbox, they put brand new oil in, could the issue be related to this ?

Could be, hard to say, I'm not pro internet mechanic ahaha

@lukits know what difference there is between quiafe LSD and Wavetrac (http://www.autotechdriveline.com/a_wavdiff.shtml) LSD?

Isn't the difference outlined in that link?

Well, does look neat from under...

Not sure about the fact it might be fibreglass under tho! it adds weight!

Found Another Bonnet, see attached pics.

Also need to find out if i can fit the GruppeM on any of these 2 bonnets!!!

My policy is, if it doesn't fit, and you want it badly enough, make it fit!
It looks like you can just do it with the Seibon bonnet if you drill the mounting holes for the scoop, but I questions if the bolts will hold it together. Lucky for me I don't have a FN2 Gruppe M intake.

Sena, im very happy with your progress mate!!! :) you're seriously turning this car into one of THE BEST TypeRs in the southern hemisphere if not the best already...!!!! WELL DONE mate!

I can't wait to race ya!

Haha man... you old school hondas intimidate me in the corners, I look at the rear view mirror and think "OMG this 1990s thing is catching me, must get to the straight!"